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Re: TRUMP...

Postby donemry » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:08 am

van2pv wrote:
donemry wrote:I some times try to figure out why he has these detractors. It baffles me.

Not sure what rock you live under but here's a start... https://pics.me.me/whats-wrong-with-america-today-in-one-photo-i-could-28101078.png


You might want to compare the the quote to the quoted statement.

Now, can you voice your dissatisfaction with Trump based on what he has actually done, rather than what he has said or others have said about him. Actions only not words.
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby jrdwdw » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:41 am

donemry wrote:
van2pv wrote:
donemry wrote:I some times try to figure out why he has these detractors. It baffles me.

Not sure what rock you live under but here's a start... https://pics.me.me/whats-wrong-with-america-today-in-one-photo-i-could-28101078.png


You might want to compare the the quote to the quoted statement.

Now, can you voice your dissatisfaction with Trump based on what he has actually done, rather than what he has said or others have said about him. Actions only not words.


Here is some help:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -done.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -done.html
https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/c ... trCgBy6d8A
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby van2pv » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:50 am

donemry wrote: Now, can you voice your dissatisfaction with Trump based on what he has actually done.

Thank you for the open door. Here is a list of his accomplishments... and as Eugene Robinson writes in The Washington Post, “Many of us began 2017 with the consoling thought that the Donald Trump presidency couldn’t possibly be as bad as we feared. It turned out to be worse.” This list could be much, much longer, but here are 10 things he has done this year. I am surprised you couldn't find this yourself – google is your friend.

1.  Promoted Bigotry And Racism
This is the very worst: Trump’s bigoted and racist views have encouraged other like-minded people to emerge and be proud of their hateful attitudes. Consider his response to the participants in the August Charlottesville protest, organized by white supremacists and neo-Nazis carrying Confederate and Nazi flags: Trump called them “very fine people.”

2. Destroyed The Environment
It’s hard to know where to start with this one, since Trump has made it a priority to get rid of every regulation President Obama put in place to protect the environment. One of Trump’s first actions was to announce the repeal of the Clean Power Plan, one of the toughest actions against global warming ever put in place by the U.S. It’s never taken effect and hasn’t been repealed yet, but that hasn’t stopped the Trump administration from reducing regulations around vehicle emissions, toxic waste, methane leaks and the pollution of drinking water. And let’s not forget the denial of climate change and the withdrawal from the Paris Peace Accords.

3. Encouraged Police Brutality
Yes, really. Trump received applause when he addressed a group of police officers on Long Island in July and instructed them to “Please don’t be too nice” when throwing suspects into the back of a police car. He went on, “Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head, I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’”

4. Abandoned Puerto Rico
Last October, when Trump visited Puerto Rico after the island’s devastation by Hurricane Maria he tossed rolls of paper towels at its residents and promised his administration would provide all kinds of aid and would write off Puerto Rico’s $72 billion debt. He also sought to downplay the severity of the destruction in the island, compared to that wrought by Hurricane Katrina. But the debt has not been written off, around 1,065 people died on the island in September and October, on par with the Katrina deaths and now, three months after the storm, thousands of these American citizens still have no power, no homes and no access to potable water.

5. Pushed “Fake News”
Trump, along with the flunkies like Mike Pence who attempt to outdo each other in obsequious praise of their master, is waging a war on the truth with his constant declarations of “Fake News” whenever a critical voice is raised against him. Trump cannot stand to be criticized, even when the truth is obvious, as in the size of his inauguration audience. While Trump decries the truth as fake news, Kellyanne Conway came up with “Alternative facts.” This authoritarian approach to any events that don’t match Trump’s prescribed opinions and policies is extremely dangerous.

6. Authorized More Arrests By ICE
It started early on: In the first weeks of Trump’s presidency, immigration arrests went up 32.6 percent; Trump had pledged that he was only going after the criminals but in fact ICE arrests of non-criminals doubled. As if that weren’t horrendous enough, the Department of Homeland Security has come up with a plan to separate families: When officials detain undocumented immigrants near the border with Mexico, the children will be handed over to Child Protective Services while their parents will be sent to detention centers.

7. Lined His Own Pockets
Trump has used the presidency to enrich himself from day one, whether it’s Trump hotels welcoming foreign dignitaries or the $91,655,424 that American taxpayers have spent on his golf trips. And now Trump will likely be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the tax bill that he signed into law last week. No wonder he wanted to celebrate. Since he hasn’t released his tax returns, it’s impossible to say how much he will gain, but it will undoubtedly be in the millions. Oh and other members of his already-wealthy family like his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner also stand to save millions.

8. Made America Less Great
In a survey conducted annually by the Nation Brands Index, the U.S. has lost its top place ranking as the country with the best international image. The top spot is now held by Germany while the U.S. has dropped to sixth place. The poll questioned public opinion on 50 countries, asking questions about governance, culture, heritage, exports, tourism, investment and immigration. Countries ahead of the U.S. were France, the U.K., Canada and Japan. Those were the overall rankings, but in the area of governance, the U.S. has dropped from 19 to 23 under Trump.

9. Stirred Up Violence In The Middle East
Early in December, Trump declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, a move which provoked immediate protests and violence in the region and brought condemnation from around the world. (Not to mention, why does a U.S. president have the right to name the capital of another country?)  Incredibly, Trump called his announcement and the decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem “a step to advance the peace process” between Israel and Palestine. To no one’s surprise, Israel’s Netanyahu called this a “historic landmark” while Palestinian President Abbas said the U.S. was making a “declaration of withdrawal” from peace process negotiations.

10. Lied Hundreds Of Times
It’s hard to insist on truth and integrity when the president will say anything as long as it makes him look good. The Washington Post has been keeping track of Trump’s lies: By the middle of November, after 298 days in office, Trump had made 1,628 false or misleading claims. That’s about six a day, but that’s only what the Post’s reporters have access to, so the number is probably much higher.
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby Ann » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:28 pm

I think he tried to ban transgender people from the military but, backed down on that after discussing with Generals, and military experts. He's likely lost any support he had from the LGBT community now.
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby Claymore52 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:43 pm

As a non American, all I can say is that I don't like clowns. They scare me.
Then again, we have one of our own. Thankfully he doesn't try to govern via Twitter.
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby donemry » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:25 am

van2pv wrote:
donemry wrote: Now, can you voice your dissatisfaction with Trump based on what he has actually done.

Thank you for the open door. Here is a list of his accomplishments... and as Eugene Robinson writes in The Washington Post, “Many of us began 2017 with the consoling thought that the Donald Trump presidency couldn’t possibly be as bad as we feared. It turned out to be worse.” This list could be much, much longer, but here are 10 things he has done this year. I am surprised you couldn't find this yourself – google is your friend.

1.  Promoted Bigotry And Racism
This is the very worst: Trump’s bigoted and racist views have encouraged other like-minded people to emerge and be proud of their hateful attitudes. Consider his response to the participants in the August Charlottesville protest, organized by white supremacists and neo-Nazis carrying Confederate and Nazi flags: Trump called them “very fine people.”

2. Destroyed The Environment
It’s hard to know where to start with this one, since Trump has made it a priority to get rid of every regulation President Obama put in place to protect the environment. One of Trump’s first actions was to announce the repeal of the Clean Power Plan, one of the toughest actions against global warming ever put in place by the U.S. It’s never taken effect and hasn’t been repealed yet, but that hasn’t stopped the Trump administration from reducing regulations around vehicle emissions, toxic waste, methane leaks and the pollution of drinking water. And let’s not forget the denial of climate change and the withdrawal from the Paris Peace Accords.

3. Encouraged Police Brutality
Yes, really. Trump received applause when he addressed a group of police officers on Long Island in July and instructed them to “Please don’t be too nice” when throwing suspects into the back of a police car. He went on, “Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head, I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’”

4. Abandoned Puerto Rico
Last October, when Trump visited Puerto Rico after the island’s devastation by Hurricane Maria he tossed rolls of paper towels at its residents and promised his administration would provide all kinds of aid and would write off Puerto Rico’s $72 billion debt. He also sought to downplay the severity of the destruction in the island, compared to that wrought by Hurricane Katrina. But the debt has not been written off, around 1,065 people died on the island in September and October, on par with the Katrina deaths and now, three months after the storm, thousands of these American citizens still have no power, no homes and no access to potable water.

5. Pushed “Fake News”
Trump, along with the flunkies like Mike Pence who attempt to outdo each other in obsequious praise of their master, is waging a war on the truth with his constant declarations of “Fake News” whenever a critical voice is raised against him. Trump cannot stand to be criticized, even when the truth is obvious, as in the size of his inauguration audience. While Trump decries the truth as fake news, Kellyanne Conway came up with “Alternative facts.” This authoritarian approach to any events that don’t match Trump’s prescribed opinions and policies is extremely dangerous.

6. Authorized More Arrests By ICE
It started early on: In the first weeks of Trump’s presidency, immigration arrests went up 32.6 percent; Trump had pledged that he was only going after the criminals but in fact ICE arrests of non-criminals doubled. As if that weren’t horrendous enough, the Department of Homeland Security has come up with a plan to separate families: When officials detain undocumented immigrants near the border with Mexico, the children will be handed over to Child Protective Services while their parents will be sent to detention centers.

7. Lined His Own Pockets
Trump has used the presidency to enrich himself from day one, whether it’s Trump hotels welcoming foreign dignitaries or the $91,655,424 that American taxpayers have spent on his golf trips. And now Trump will likely be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the tax bill that he signed into law last week. No wonder he wanted to celebrate. Since he hasn’t released his tax returns, it’s impossible to say how much he will gain, but it will undoubtedly be in the millions. Oh and other members of his already-wealthy family like his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner also stand to save millions.

8. Made America Less Great
In a survey conducted annually by the Nation Brands Index, the U.S. has lost its top place ranking as the country with the best international image. The top spot is now held by Germany while the U.S. has dropped to sixth place. The poll questioned public opinion on 50 countries, asking questions about governance, culture, heritage, exports, tourism, investment and immigration. Countries ahead of the U.S. were France, the U.K., Canada and Japan. Those were the overall rankings, but in the area of governance, the U.S. has dropped from 19 to 23 under Trump.

9. Stirred Up Violence In The Middle East
Early in December, Trump declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, a move which provoked immediate protests and violence in the region and brought condemnation from around the world. (Not to mention, why does a U.S. president have the right to name the capital of another country?)  Incredibly, Trump called his announcement and the decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem “a step to advance the peace process” between Israel and Palestine. To no one’s surprise, Israel’s Netanyahu called this a “historic landmark” while Palestinian President Abbas said the U.S. was making a “declaration of withdrawal” from peace process negotiations.

10. Lied Hundreds Of Times
It’s hard to insist on truth and integrity when the president will say anything as long as it makes him look good. The Washington Post has been keeping track of Trump’s lies: By the middle of November, after 298 days in office, Trump had made 1,628 false or misleading claims. That’s about six a day, but that’s only what the Post’s reporters have access to, so the number is probably much higher.


It is bad enough that you offer opinions as facts, buy many of offerings are simply incorrect or are guesses about what nay happen at some indeterminate date in the future.
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Re: TRUMP...

Postby waltandjean » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:59 am

"Early in December, Trump declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, a move which provoked immediate protests and violence in the region and brought condemnation from around the world. (Not to mention, why does a U.S. president have the right to name the capital of another country?) "

Might want to try and budge that rock you live under. Trump has not declared Jerusalem to be the capitol (with an O) of Israel, Israel has. Every president since and including Clinton has declared the embassy should be moved there. Trump is the first one with the stones to actually do it. WTF does any other country think is cool about telling another country where their capitol should be located? I think if you read your history you will see Israel captured Jerusalem fair and square in the 6 Day War and they ain't giving it back, unlike some weenie other countries that apologize for winning a war. If the Arabs want to cut a deal I suspect they could regain the Golan Heights but probably not Jerusalem.
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